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FIDELITY GROWTH AND INCOME ANNUITY

Last post 07-16-2008 3:38 PM by scottb. 3 replies.
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  • 06-28-2008 1:48 PM

    FIDELITY GROWTH AND INCOME ANNUITY

    I am 65 and retired, as is my wife.  We have our investments with Fidelity

    and have received a packet on fidelity growth and guaranteed income annuity.  I would appreciate

    your input on this as we are looking for a boost to our income.  There is a couple of

    investment options if I decide to go for this type of annuity, one is Fidelity VIP balanced

    and Fidelity VIP Fundsmanager 60.

    Tom

    Destin, fl.

  • 07-02-2008 3:23 PM In reply to

    Re: FIDELITY GROWTH AND INCOME ANNUITY

    If your wife is also 65 you will be allowed to start with a withdrawal rate of 5 percent. Because this is an insurance product with insurance guarantees, your annual income will remain the same regardless of what the markets do and you'll have a shot at seeing your income increase if your account value exceeds the original value of the account.

    Of course, the orignal value of the account will have to grow enough to overcome your withdrawal, the insurance expenses of the product (1.25 percent a year), and the management expenses of the fund (0.57 percent for Fidelity VIP Balanced fund). As a practical matter, you've got a better shot with Fidelity than with typical insurance products since they will have both higher insurance costs (average of 2.05 percent) and higher fund expense ratios. While your investments will be supporting your 5 percent withdrawal and 1.82 percent in fees, a typical insurance product will be carrying the same withdrawal rate and about 3.00 percent in fees.

    You can also boost your income on your own simply by taking 5 percent from your own portfolio and taking the gamble that the portfolio will grow enough to overcome your withdrawals or at least stay even. What you are paying the extra 1.25 percent for is to have an insurance company shoulder the risk of a down market that could reduce your income drastically. For may people, the assurance of a guranteed minimum annual income is worth the additional expenses of the insurance.

    Before you make that commitment, however, you might also try to measure what your real risk IS by visiting www.firecalc.com. This website, which I've mentioned in many columns, will allow you to test the survival odds for your portfolio. A portfolio that is 60 percent equities and 40 percent 5 year Treasuries and that costs 0.57 percent a year to manage, for instance, has a 98 percent chance of surviving a fixed annual withdrawal of $50,000 (5%) from an initial portfolio of $1 million for a withdrawal period of 30 years. That's about 5 years longer than the joint life expectancy of a 65 year old couple.

    Given those odds, Fidelity is being very well rewarded for taking the risk of lower investment returns. Imagine how well rewarded the insurance companies that charge so much more are!

    Scott

     

  • 07-13-2008 6:38 PM In reply to

    Re: FIDELITY GROWTH AND INCOME ANNUITY vs Vanguard...

    "A Vanguard Lifetime Income Program annuity is a financial tool that allows you to convert a single lump sum into a guaranteed retirement income stream.* You may want to consider purchasing an income annuity if: You want an income stream that will last throughout retirement. You're concerned about outliving your retirement savings. You'd like to preserve or even grow your assets during retirement. You are concerned about the effects of inflation on your retirement nest egg." ..I was thinking of taking the Bond portion of my asset allocation model ($400k)...and investing it in this (or one like it)....I would get a steady revenue stream, whereas with Bonds, i have no assurance of a return. Their TIP model has a YTD gain of 5.37% - certainly better than most Bonds..pros and cons the same as with Fidelity?....Your thoughts would be appreciated.
  • 07-16-2008 3:38 PM In reply to

    Re: FIDELITY GROWTH AND INCOME ANNUITY vs Vanguard...

    gordons1,

    A lifetime annuity is a very useful tool for retirement income planning, particularly for the millions of workers who don't have the benefit of a defined benefit pension income. Just as our assets are a portfolio, our income sources are another type of portfolio. The greater the diversification of your income sources, the greater your security.

    I'm not sure, however, that you should consider a life annuity as a substitute for your bond portfolio. While it will function much the same way, having a portfolio that is a life annuity plus equities subjects you to significant risk if you need more money because you might be forced to sell equities in a bear market.

    The better alternative is to have a mixture of: Social Security, life annuity/pension, fixed income, equities.

    Scott

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