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Purchasing pension plan service credit

Last post 08-26-2008 4:17 PM by scottb. 2 replies.
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  • 08-22-2008 4:18 PM

    Purchasing pension plan service credit

     

    My queston is concerning buying pension service credit. 
    Through my husbands Washington state pension plan he can purchase up to 5 years of service credit.  In looking at the cost for him, the cost is $21,204 for 24 months of service.  This would give him a payment of $153.64 a month (single life) or $117.84 for the 100% survivor option.  His pension comes with an inflation protection  of up to 3% per year based on the CPI in Seattle.  I've tried comparing this to an annuity on Vanguard and for $20,000 with a 3% increase each year their payout would only be $90 (joint & 100% survivor).  It seems like a good deal to purchase the credit, but it's hard to know whether to cough up that much money.  We could move 457 assets to pay for it.  We already have these pensions:
    $3100 monthly my pension (joint and 100% survivor)
    $1370 monthly husband SSI
    $400 monthly Air Force retirement
    In 1/2 years when my husband is  65 he will get $1400 a month (joint & 100% survivor) from State of Wash pension
    When I turn 66 (5 years away) I will get about $1800 a month in SSI
     
    We have about $550,000 in IRAs/457 plans combined.  We're retired and are currently using some of our IRA money to live on until my SSI and husband's pension kick in.  It seems like we'll have enough monthly income then and maybe it's just better to leave the money in the IRA.  Most of the IRA money isn't Roth (only about $40,000 is Roth).  My husband is saying - what we're going to give them $20,000  in exchange for $117 more a month?  What is your take on this?
     
  • 08-22-2008 4:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Purchasing pension plan service credit

    Hi Connie.

    This is a great deal, provided that you are both at least reasonably healthy.  Especially if you can pay for it with pretax funds.  If you can get the full five years for the same rate I would jump on it.

    The only reason Washington can give you such a deal is that it is funded by future taxpayers.

    Bryan 

  • 08-26-2008 4:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Purchasing pension plan service credit

    Connie,

    Very few people annuitize any of their investments because they have the same problem your husband has--- they really don't like the idea of giving up a large sum to get a much smaller lifetime income. In fact, his service credit offer is a really good deal. The cash return ($117.84 a month) is 6.7 percent of the $21,204 he would have to pay and it would be received for as long as either of you is alive.

    Just try to find a 6.7 percent payment, adjusted annually for some inflation, anywhere in the investment world. If he can buy this with his 457 money, even better.

    Scott

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